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Re: [Duplicity-talk] Duplicity + asymmetric encryption


From: edgar . soldin
Subject: Re: [Duplicity-talk] Duplicity + asymmetric encryption
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 04:31:01 +0200
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On August 2, 2015 11:41:31 PM GMT+02:00, "Marko Božiković" <address@hidden> 
wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I've started playing with Duplicity for my cloud backup needs and I
>have a few
>questions regarding asymmetric encryption with gpg. Apologies for a
>long mail,
>but I'm confused by Duplicity's behaviour.
>
>I'm using Debian Jessie, duply 1.9.2, duplicity 0.7.3 and gpg 2.1.6
>(these are
>installed from testing/experimental repos)
>
>I've created a symbolic link gpg->gpg2 in order to force duplicity to
>use gpg2.
>
>I have a gpg2 keyring setup with a master 4096 bit key, three 2048 bit
>subkeys
>(for signing, encryption and authentication) for everyday use that are
>stored
>on a smart card and a newly created 2048 bit (S, E) subkey for
>duplicity backup.
>
>I keep my secret master key offline. The keyring on my laptop only
>contains
>the master public key and stubs for secret subkeys that live on the
>smartcard.
>The keyring on my backup machine only contains the public master key
>and the
>duplicity backup subkey.
>
>Here are the relevant bits from my duply config (I've replaced my
>backup key's
>fingerprint with YYYYYYYY:
>
>GPG_KEY='YYYYYYYY'
>GPG_OPTS='--pinentry-mode loopback'
>VOLSIZE=250
>DUPL_PARAMS="$DUPL_PARAMS --volsize $VOLSIZE "
>DUPL_PARAMS="$DUPL_PARAMS --file-prefix-archive=backup-data-
>--file-prefix-manifest=includes- --file-prefix-signature=signatures-"
>
>Gpg 2.1 always uses gpg-agent for secret key access and it doesn't set
>GPG_AGENT_INFO env. variable. This is the output I get when I run duply
>with
>no GPG_AGENT_INFO set (YYYYYYYY is my backup key's fingerprint and
>XXXXXXXX is
>my master key fingerprint)
>
>-------------------------------
>-- BEGIN no GPG_AGENT_INFO set
>-------------------------------
>Start duply v1.9.2, time is 2015-08-02 22:02:48.
>Using profile '/home/bozho/.duply/photo'.
>Using installed duplicity version 0.7.03, python 2.7.10, gpg 2.1.6
>(Home:
>~/.gnupg), awk 'mawk 1.3.3 Nov 1996, Copyright (C) Michael D. Brennan',
>grep
>'(GNU grep) 2.20', bash '4.3.30(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)'.
>Autoset found secret key of first GPG_KEY entry 'YYYYYYYY' for signing.
>Cannot use gpg-agent. GPG_AGENT_INFO not set.
>Checking TEMP_DIR '/tmp' is a folder (OK)
>Checking TEMP_DIR '/tmp' is writable (OK)
>Enter passphrase: <MY SECRET KEY PASSWORD>
>Test - Encrypt to 'YYYYYYYY' & Sign with 'YYYYYYYY' (OK)
>Test - Decrypt (OK)
>Test - Compare (OK)
>Cleanup - Delete '/tmp/duply.1629.1438549369_*'(OK)
>Export SEC key 'YYYYYYYY' (FAILED)
>
>WARNING:
>
>Backup failed.
>gpg: key XXXXXXXX/YYYYYYYY: error receiving key from agent: No
>passphrase
>given - skipped
>
>Export SEC key 'YYYYYYYY' (FAILED)
>
>WARNING:
>
>Backup failed.
>gpg: key XXXXXXXX/YYYYYYYY: error receiving key from agent: No
>passphrase
>given - skipped
>
>
>--- Start running command PRE at 22:03:14.018 ---
>Skipping n/a script '/home/bozho/.duply/photo/pre'.
>--- Finished state OK at 22:03:14.122 - Runtime 00:00:00.103 ---
>
>--- Start running command BKP at 22:03:14.135 ---
>Reading globbing filelist /home/bozho/.duply/photo/exclude
>Local and Remote metadata are synchronized, no sync needed.
>Last full backup date: none
>GnuPG passphrase: <ANY PASSPHRASE>
>GnuPG passphrase for signing key: <MY SECRET KEY PASSWORD>
>No signatures found, switching to full backup.
>-------------------------------
>-- END no GPG_AGENT_INFO set
>-------------------------------
>
>
>Note that I get asked a passphrase three times:
>
>- "Enter passphrase", which requires my secret backup subkey password -
>why is
>that needed here?
>
>- "GnuPG passphrase:", which can be any password - I'm guessing that's
>used as
>the session key that actually encrypts the data and then gets encrypted
>by my
>public subkey. Why is this necessary? In OpenPGP, the session key
>can/should
>be a long random key - the recipient doesn't need to know it.
>
>- "GnuPG passphrase for signing key" - ok, this one is for signing,
>since it's
>enabled and I'm using the same key.
>
>
>
>Now, if I restart gpg-agent in order to reset its caching and actually
>export
>GPG_AGENT_INFO, I get a slightly different output:
>
>-------------------------------
>-- BEGIN GPG_AGENT_INFO set
>-------------------------------
>Start duply v1.9.2, time is 2015-08-02 22:12:42.
>Using profile '/home/bozho/.duply/photo'.
>Using installed duplicity version 0.7.03, python 2.7.10, gpg 2.1.6
>(Home:
>~/.gnupg), awk 'mawk 1.3.3 Nov 1996, Copyright(C) Michael D. Brennan',
>grep
>'(GNU grep) 2.20', bash '4.3.30(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)'.
>Autoset found secret key of first GPG_KEY entry 'YYYYYYYY' for signing.
>Autoenable use of gpg-agent. GPG_PW or GPG_PW_SIGN (enc != sign key)
>not set.
>Checking TEMP_DIR '/tmp' is a folder (OK)
>Checking TEMP_DIR '/tmp' is writable (OK)
>Enter passphrase: <MY SECRET KEY PASSWORD>
>Test - Encrypt to 'YYYYYYYY' & Sign with 'YYYYYYYY' (OK)
>Test - Decrypt (OK)
>Test - Compare (OK)
>Cleanup - Delete '/tmp/duply.4740.1438549962_*'(OK)
>Export SEC key 'YYYYYYYY' (FAILED)
>
>WARNING:
>
>Backup failed.
>gpg: key XXXXXXXX/YYYYYYYY: error receiving key from agent: No
>passphrase
>given - skipped
>
>Export SEC key 'YYYYYYYY' (FAILED)
>
>WARNING:
>
>Backup failed.
>gpg: key XXXXXXXX/YYYYYYYY: error receiving key from agent: No
>passphrase
>given - skipped
>
>
>--- Start running command PRE at 22:13:22.870 ---
>Skipping n/a script '/home/bozho/.duply/photo/pre'.
>--- Finished state OK at 22:13:22.956 - Runtime 00:00:00.085 ---
>
>--- Start running command BKP at 22:13:22.966 ---
>Reading globbing filelist /home/bozho/.duply/photo/exclude
>Local and Remote metadata are synchronized, no sync needed.
>Last full backup date: none
>No signatures found, switching to full backup.
>-------------------------------
>-- END GPG_AGENT_INFO set
>-------------------------------
>
>Notice that I get asked for a password only once, at the beginning
>("Enter
>passphrase") Why is that, and is the session key being randomly
>generated in
>this case or is my secret subkey password used as a session key (this
>is a bad
>idea)
>
>Thank you,


probably 
 https://sourceforge.net/p/ftplicity/feature-requests/36/

try setting --use-agent manually in conf.

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