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Re: [Duplicity-talk] Sometimes reads manifest from backup location even


From: Kenneth Loafman
Subject: Re: [Duplicity-talk] Sometimes reads manifest from backup location even though it's in cache -- why?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:54:27 -0700

I'm short on time as well.  It should not read the remote unless the local one was not found.  I'll look into it when I get the time.

...Ken



On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:26 AM, <address@hidden> wrote:
yeah, please file a bug on launchpad, but check if there is a similar entry first please.
also point to this mail thread (via gmane or some) for others to read.

i still haven't and probably for some time will not have time to disect the issue.
first and foremost. the local cache (archive-dir) functionality was introduced with 0.6 by Kenneth (the maintainer), so we should ask him what he thinks the issue is here. i tried before, but haven't got an anser. i'll cc him again.

Ken: any idea on this? cite from below: "duplicity will sometimes decide to retrieve a manifest from the remote backup location even though there's a copy in the local cache"


..ede/duply.net


On 17.04.2013 04:04, address@hidden wrote:
> So I guess I should just turn this into a bug report? Concerns me that I don't see a good way for the maintainer to reproduce the bug, which is going to make it hard to fix.
>
> One circumstance that was different when it failed from when it worked is this: I was running nightly backups, then the machines all got shut down for a week and a half, and it was when I started them back up that this failure appeared. Does duplicity like to retrieve the manifest from the remote if it's more than a week old?
>
>  - Dave Cottingham
>
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> *From: *address@hidden
> *To: *"Discussion of the backup program duplicity" <address@hidden>
> *Sent: *Friday, April 12, 2013 3:16:58 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Duplicity-talk] Sometimes reads manifest from backup location even though it's in cache -- why?
>
> Here's the log file, gzipped. I should've thought of that myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Cottingham
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------!
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> *From: *"edgar soldin" <address@hidden>
> *To: *"Discussion of the backup program duplicity" <address@hidden>
> *Sent: *Friday, April 12, 2013 2:05:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Duplicity-talk] Sometimes reads manifest from backup location even though it's in cache -- why?
>
> did you try zipping it? else just put it on some filehoster/pastebin ..ede/duply.net
>
> On 12.04.2013 19:03, address@hidden wrote:
>> I see the same problem with 0.6.21.
>>
>> I found that one of my other machines was already running the latest version. It similarly fails when it decides to retrieve the latest manifest from the remote location, although the manifest is in the local cache.
>>
>> I tried sending this message this morning with the "-v9" log attached, and it never appeared on the list, so I'm trying again without the attachments. If this gets through I'll try sending the log in a subsequent message.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Cottingham
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------!
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>> *From: *"edgar soldin" <address@hidden>
>> *To: *"Discussion of the backup program duplicity" <address@hidden>
>> *Sent: *Monday, April 8, 2013 12:36:40 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Duplicity-talk] Sometimes reads manifest from backup location even though it's in cache -- why?
>>
>> looks like you are right. it explicitely states that the metadata is in sync, hence it should use the local copy.
>>
>> before anything else. please try the latest release 0.6.21. install it from tarball if your distro does not sport in the repository. directions here http://duply.net/?title=Duply-documentation under section TIP.
>> we have had lot's of fixes since your version.
>>
>> @Ken: any idea why it still tries to download it?
>>
>> ..ede/duply.net
>>
>> On 08.04.2013 17:29, address@hidden wrote:
>>> Here's the output of "-v9" for one of my backups. It's quite voluminous, so I've put it in an attachment.
>>>
>>> I've also attached a list of the archive dir -- looks to me like the file it's trying to retrieve is already cached.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave Cottingham
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------!
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>>> *From: *"edgar soldin" <address@hidden>
>>> *To: *"Discussion of the backup program duplicity" <address@hidden>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, April 8, 2013 9:05:07 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Duplicity-talk] Sometimes reads manifest from backup location even though it's in cache -- why?
>>>
>>> On 08.04.2013 02:58, address@hidden wrote:
>>>> I see that duplicity will sometimes decide to retrieve a manifest from the remote backup location even though there's a copy in the local cache. Can anyone clarify what circumstances cause this to happen, and why?
>>>>
>>>> Here's why I care. I am backing up to Amazon S3 and using a lifecycle rule to transition everything to Glacier. So, of course, nothing can be retrieved without prior manual intervention. I expected this to work since the local cache has everything duplicity needs, and in fact this worked with nightly backups for over two weeks. But now duplicity fails because it is trying to retrieve the last manifest, even though that file is in the cache.
>>>>
>>>
>>> question is why. do you have an extra verbose '-v9' output for us? obfuscate private strings in it and post it here.
>>>
>>> ..ede/duply.net
>>>


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