Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website...

[Doc O'Leary]

In article <mailman.9812.1387554695.10748.discuss-gnustep@gnu.org>,
 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com> wrote:

> Am 20.12.2013 um 16:30 schrieb Graham Lee:
> 
> > On 20 Dec 2013, at 15:14, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns@goldelico.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Am 20.12.2013 um 16:05 schrieb David Chisnall:
> >> 
> >>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:54, Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> I agree.  We should either move our bugs to gna or move the code back to 
> >>>> savannah.  Does anyone have any opinions on this?
> >>> 
> >>> If we're moving anything, I'd actually be in favour of Option 3: Move 
> >>> everything to GitHub.  That gives us:
> >> [Š]
> >>> 
> >>> While GitHub is far from perfect, it's a lot less bad than any of the 
> >>> alternatives I've seen, unless you have the manpower to host all of the 
> >>> infrastructure yourself.  
> >> 
> >> ++
> > 
> > And here.
> 
> BTW: although this looks like an opinion poll as the subject is indicating, 
> we are doing an opinion statement here, trying to convince others. But 
> usually only 3 or 4 statements like ours appear and then it is neither clear 
> if this is a majority opinion and the discussion goes into another direction. 
> And the 3 or 4 statements are lost and no action is taken.
> 
> A better opinion poll would  run for let's say 4 weeks, be prominently 
> announced (so that it is not embedded in a long discussion) and ask e.g.:
> 
> Which source code repository would you like to use for GNUstep:

Of course, I would argue that what really matters is the pre-question:

Do you think differences in source code managers are really the 
fundamental problem that GNUstep most needs to address?

I think I've used them all since CVS, and messed with manually shipping 
around tarballs and using diff before that.  But, abstractly, they all 
accomplish the same thing for me and I care very little about which 
particular one gets used.  More meaningful to me is the organizational 
structure that is in place *first*, which some SCM might be more aligned 
to than others.

Same for the original poll questions.  The nature of them is not the 
yes/no of it, but the desire to get at and solve the root problem, and 
from that we derive the most workable solution.

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