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Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]
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Charles Philip Chan |
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Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers] |
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Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:55:18 -0400 |
On 2006-09-04 18:38:00 -0400 phil taylor <ptay1685@bigpond.net.au>
wrote:
> Can anyone (try to) explain the merits of the floating menus? I fail
> to
> see any advantages over the more usual menus which are either attached
> at some point to the application windows,
I don't have to move my mouse as much:
http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/
> or can be invoked by clicking anywhere within the window.
The menu can also be invoked by right clicking on any NeXT/Gnustep
apps.
> The menus of multiple applications all look the same - only the title
> bar of the base menu distinguishes them, so with lots of apps open it
> gets harder and harder to locate which menu goes with which app.
WTF? Only the action app have its menu showing.
> For every app open you now have two windows (main app window and menu
> window) open instead of one. So now you have two windows to position.
> Is
> that an advantage?
Yes. Menus can also be pinned or put off-screen.
> I hardly see how anyone can believe that the dangling menu looks
> better.
> I suppose it looks odd to me largely due to it being different to the
> usual paradigm with which I am familiar, but even taking that into
> account it is still rather odd.
Takes a while to get use to, but easy to use once you get use to it.
> As to the scrollbars being on the left, I have no basic objection to
> that, except to say that it makes sense to have the scroll bars on the
> same side as the close button, since those two operations happen most
> frequently. You open the window, scroll the text to locate something,
> then close it. If the close button is on the right and the scroll bar
> on
> the left, then that would indicate extra mouse movements are required
> in
> that situation.
Not if you are in edit something. Close is put in a more difficult
place to get at to prevent users from accidentally closing the window.
> Overall, to me the GNUstep (and by defenition Openstep) interface
> seems
> to me odd for no good reason, as if it was dreamed up by marketing
> executives who see the need to differentiate a product against its
> competitors.
Please read the reasoning in this page before commenting further:
http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/
Charles
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- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], (continued)
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Chris Vetter, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Rogelio Serrano, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Markus Hitter, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Rogelio Serrano, 2006/09/05
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- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/05
- Re: Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Nicolas Roard, 2006/09/04
- Re: Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/05
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- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Andreas Schik, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Pascal Bourguignon, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Markus Hitter, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Rogelio Serrano, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Rogelio Serrano, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/05