Re: GNUstep and session management

[Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf]

Am Dienstag, 11.10.05 um 01:01 Uhr schrieb Markus Hitter:

> Am 11.10.2005 um 00:00 schrieb Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf:
>
> > * a log out request doesn't destroy anything
>
> To be honest, I log out of my personal computer once a month, at best. 
> Setting a modern computer to sleep switches it as off as hardware can 
> be off.
>
>
> For all those situations where frequent log outs are required, I'd 
> consider it more ideal to have apps which never pop up "Save changes 
> before quit..."-type dialogs. They should write their stuff to 
> temporary files and continue at the exakt same point the next time 
> they are launched. This could even span sessions on different > machines.
>
> But this is a dream. For now, sensible logouts are required.
>
>
> > * Session management is better done by loginwindow.app than the 
> > workspace manager
> >
> > - You can quit the Mac OS X equivalent of the Workspace Manager (the 
> > infamous "Finder")[...]
>
> More exactly, there's a third app, the Dock, which does session 
> management on Mac OS X. The Dock can't be quit. The Dock handles the 
> Apple menu, containing items like "shutdown" and "log out", and is 
> responsible for launching apps.

Are you sure about this? I ask since I already heard the same from 
somebody else. But in fact on 10.2 you can kill the dock without 
loosing your session, it disappears for the fraction of a second and 
restarts. Also the Apple Menu doesn't seem to be affected. In contrast, 
killing loginwindow kills your session.

> From the session management point of view, the Finder is just one of 
> those apps, a file manager, which happens to be launched automatically 
> but can be replaced by any other file manager.
>
>
> Well, we're talking so much about Mac OS X here, ... are there other 
> samples of well desgined session managements out in the OS world?

Maybe BeOS? Or OS/2? I don't know, I never used one of both ...

> Markus

Lars