Re: StepBox v1 - Yet another GNUstep window manager

[Yen-Ju Chen]

> From: Ian Mondragon <copal@dragonhelix.org>
> To: Adam Fedor <fedor@doc.com>
> CC: Yen-Ju Chen <yjchenx@hotmail.com>, discuss-gnustep@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: StepBox v1 - Yet another GNUstep window manager
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:25 -0500
>
> i've run into this problem with IWM, and the issue is fairly 
> gnustep-centric in that the concept of each application having it's own 
> dedicated menu and icon represented on screen is not a globally accepted 
> norm, and therefore is not present in the "standards" out there (ICCCM, 
> EWMH).  while the EWMH spec makes use of "menu" windows and the sort, 
> they're not intended for use in the gnustep sense, which presents a 
> problem.  for now, if i recall correctly, i was actually using the XClass 
> name/instance to parse out which application the clients belong to, but 
> it's a horrible hack.
>
>   i've been inundated with hoards of other things lately and obviously 
> haven't had a lot of time to devote to IWM (not to mention the nightmare 
> that is sourceforge), but one of the things i had pondered at one point was 
> simply going the "only-gnustep" route and seeing if we (the IWM team) could 
> work out something with the core gnustep team to set up an IWM-specific set 
> of atoms to consistently communicate this sort of information with the WM, 
> but i never did so.

 Yes, we do need a GNUstep specification for window manager.
 I plan to make StepBox use as many GNUstep classes as possible,
 such as NSColor, NSFont, NSStringDrawing, NSBezierPath, etc.
 But I don't think StepBox can be independent from Xwindow
 if it need to support non-GNUstep application,
 especially regarding to Xwindow event handling (and probably run loop).
 Since window managers for GNUstep are emerging now,
 it would be nice to have a good discussion about the boundary among
 window manager, workspace (GWorkspace) and file manager (GWorkspace).
 StepBox has sort-of minimal functions of window manager.
 It supports resizing, moving, workspaces, iconified into root menu (not 
real icon on the screen),
 and configure. That's all.
 If I can solve the problem of menu (require GNUstep specification) and 
window order,
 I think that's all we always ask.

 Yen-Ju


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