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Re: Debian and SimplyGNUstep


From: NeXT
Subject: Re: Debian and SimplyGNUstep
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:11:20 +0900

I also do not like FHS, I think FHS is not for GNUstep or any *STEP things. Even MacOSX does not follow this(actually they adjust even normal programs like apache to their own standard and I like this standard). Why should we follow
FHS?

On 2003-10-09 07:31:45 +0900 Matthias Klose <doko@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:

Adam Fedor wrote:
Sounds cool to me. I'd like to see an easy-to-install and/or
pre-compiled collection of GNUstep apps and libraries.

Doesn't sound cool at all.

- Debian does have "an easy-to-install and/or pre-compiled collection
  of GNUstep apps and libraries". Why another set?

- assume he makes his packages for one architecture, he's missing
  six other archs.

The thing he doesn't like are the unusual/unfriendly places (called
the Unix File System Hierarchy (FHS)). Some time before the KDE people
didn't like, now someone from the GNUstep community doesn't like
it. If you know of a better schema which fits the FHS, please let us
know.

Currently, the gnustep related packages are mostly maintained by Eric
Heintzmann (not yet a Debian developer, but sponsored by another
developer).

        Matthias

On Sunday, October 5, 2003, at 09:30 PM, Chad Hardin wrote:
The burden of creating a completely new dsitro, by my self :-(, has
become way too hard. At the current pace it simply would never get
done!


So, I've decided to go on a new route:

I'm gonna make it a Debian Sarge based distro. Not a fork, just
regular Debian with extra packages and a different install disc. There
already is some gnustep deb stuff, but the Debian filesystem rules
makes it strange because the gnustep stuff get's installed in strange
places, as many of you know. I plan on making gnustep .deb packages
which install in more user-friendly places, like /System, /Network,
etc.

Right now I'm making a .deb called sgstep-gnustep-make, which installs
in / and of course allows applications to be installed there too. I'm
thinking this is the only SGSTEp specific .dsc I'l have to make, since
the other .dscs will build and install according to whatever makefile
package builder's current gnustep-make has in place.

My hope is that once this is done, I can start making all kinds of
other gnustep .dsc's which will work on both regular Debian and
SGSTEP. hopefully I can start maintainging a lot of Debian GNUstep
stuff.


So, my question is, is this cool? Does anybody mind me becoming a
Debian package maintainer for most (all?) gnustep stuff out there? I'm
up to it.

what do you mean by "becoming a Debian package maintainer"? you are
free to provide any packages for the Debian distribution. If you want
to become a Debian developer, apply as a new maintainer at debian.org,
provided you are willing to work with the current Debian package
maintainers and follow Debian guidelines and policies.


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