Re: Instant Messenger Application ?

[Yen-Ju Chen]

 For the basic function of NSToolbar,
 there should be a 1-to-1 equavalent NSMenu.
 So it is not a big problem.
 Tobias already made the NSDrawer for GNUstep (not released yet).
 Otherwise, a panel should do the same.

 To me, it would be great that Fire can run both on Cocoa and GNUstep,
 but it may take a lot of work.
 I'm not familiar with cross-platform and network programming.
 Still evaluate the possibility.
 The best way to do that besides writting from scratch
 is to fork Fire, make it work, and merge again.
 I feel the user interface is easy part.
 The network part is hard.
 Fire uses a lot of modified C libraries taken from other projects.
 There libraries may not be portable.
 Rewritting these C libraries to Cocoa/GNUstep is not a trival work
 This part could be done by the Fire project itself if they want.
 Otherwise, we have to deal with both user interface and these C libraries
 at the same time, which is not easy....

 Just a thought...

 Yen-Ju

> Yen-Ju,
>
> Any work that is done in terms of getting rid of Carbon and ObjC++ code
> should probably be sent back to the Fire project maintainers. I would
> think they would like the fact that it would be more portable, and might
> very well accept our patches to make it so.
>
> The other problem is of course the usage of NSToolbar and NSDrawer. What
> is your opinion here?
>
> Alex
>
>
> >   I just check the source code of fire.
> >   To me, the user interface is not a big problem.
> >   It will be redesigned anyway.
> >   It's hard to maintain the GNUstep and Cocoa in the same source code as
> > GNUMail in this case.
> >   What I'm more interested are how it handles the IM protocol.
> >   The problem will be the minor Carbon and Objective-C++ code inside. An
> > alternative will be the netclasses,
> >   which is already used in TalkSoup.
> >   I just wonder how well it can handle UDP besides TCP ?
> >   Maybe write a new one based on netclasses/TalkSoup will be easlier.
> >
> >   Yen-Ju


_________________________________________________________________
MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*.  
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus