RE: GNUstep version number(s) (was: Re: GNUstep article (was: Re: gnustep compared to other toolkits))

[Mondragon, Ian]

wow...look at that...Interface buzz!  thanks for the hint drop, chris!  he's
right though, in that i've been pretty tied up with xMach development
lately, which has led me to put Interface on a temporary hold.  note that i
said *temporary*...development will continue soon, as the particular project
i'm working on (for xMach) should be completed within the next few days.  

there's a rather pitifull (really) screenshot of Interface on
http://www.dragonhelix.org for those of you that are interrested & haven't
seen it, along with the notice that i halted development for the past month
or so.  at this point, it's pretty much an *objective-c* version of AEWM, as
opposed to a pure *GNUstep* window manager, per se.  it's also buggier than
hell at the present time <har har>, with no hooks in place for
GWorkspace.app.  

it does, however, obtain several settings from the GNUstepDefaults database
upon startup, so it's a beginning.  i'm trying to plan how to go about
moving the contraption away from making direct X calls to utilizing
XGPS/XDPS almost exclusively, thereby making it the "pure" GNUstep WM, no
exceptions.  however, that turns out to be deceptively complicated, so any
input would be highly appreciated (as mr. pero's advice has been on a couple
occasions).  the nice thing is that it currently is comprised entirely of
only 2 classes and a controller file...so the code base is fairly tiny.

let me know if you have any questions. please cc: me at

                copal @ dragonhelix . org

though...

- ian mondragon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris B. Vetter [SMTP:cvetter@allegria.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:43 PM
> To:   Laurent Julliard
> Cc:   discuss-gnustep@gnu.org
> Subject:      Re: GNUstep version number(s) (was: Re: GNUstep article
> (was: Re:gnustep  compared to other toolkits))
> 
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:31:32 +0200
> Laurent Julliard <Laurent.Julliard@xrce.xerox.com> wrote:
> > PS: on a totally different chapter, could someone explain to me why
> > Windowmaker is said to be GNUstep compliant. Ok, it comes with the
> 
> There are several others, mainly those with full support for MWM Atoms.
> Window Maker is not only GNUstep-compliant, but also -aware.
> 
> Well, right now ... Ian's Interface might (hopefully) change that.
> 
> > NeXTstep look and feel but it does not use gnustep-gui right?
> 
> Window Maker uses WINGs to sort-of emulate gnustep-gui.
> 
> > So how does it relate to GNUstep exactly?
> 
> Window Maker is the only (AFAIK) WM which supports GNUstep-Atoms.
> 
> Window Maker is a really cool window manager by itself, but it looks
> to me as if Alfredo is moving away from his original goal, bloating
> it with a lot of (to me and probably others as well) useless stuff,
> which makes is sort-of unusable as a WM for GNUstep.
> 
> What we need is a small WM which is just that - a WM, nothing else,
> using GWorkspace.app as workspace manager.
> 
> 'Interface' looks promising, though Ian is currently more involved
> with development for xMach. I'm still playing around with my source
> but also lack the time to get involved too deeply in writing another
> WM. Well, hmm, maybe, if there's demand...
> 
> -- 
> Chris
> 
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