Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Renaming PyBOMBS

[Martin Braun]

There's nothing 'wrong', but PyBOMBS does something else.


- The standard packagers can only install what someone has packaged
(usually quite outdated), and most of them only install to the system
- Installing out-of-tree modules doesn't work except for some, on some
packagers
- You often want to curate multiple install of GNU Radio + some modules
in your home dir
- Easy cross compiling
- Configurable recipe lists
- It actually uses the Linux package managers under the hood
- ....

Between portage, pip etc. all of these features surely exist in diverse
packagers. But we want to provide our community with a one-stop, easy
way to explore the out-of-tree modules, ease development, etc.

Martin

On 24.12.2015 15:21, Mike Harpe wrote:
> I'm just curious. What's wrong with the standard Linux package
> management systems?
> 
> Mike Harpe
> 
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Martin Braun <address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
> 
>     Let's not get derailed -- this thread is about finding a new name for
>     PyBOMBS, or keeping the old one.
> 
>     The name doesn't have to be an acronym, either. I don't know what 'pip'
>     stands for, I'm not even sure 'yum' stands for anything, and 'emerge' is
>     just a nice word that describes what it's doing. Something that the
>     community finds overall nice for tool that does lots of things such as
>     installing GNU Radio and making development easier, that is easy to type
>     and remember and just looks good.
> 
>     Cheers,
>     M
> 
>     On 12/22/2015 07:35 PM, Tim O'Shea wrote:
>     > Cutesy acronym grumblings aside on this one, If all you wanted to
>     do was
>     > install gnu radio, apt, rpm, our emerge would do.   IMO pybombs seems
>     > more about indexing, installing, setting up development environments,
>     > and updating out of tree modules - "grin" implied scope is a small
>     > subset thereof
>     >
>     >
>     > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015, 10:02 PM Neel Pandeya
>     <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>
>     > <mailto:address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >     Also perhaps:
>     >
>     >     GRIN = Gnu Radio INstaller
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 22 December 2015 at 15:37, Martin Braun
>     <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>
>     >     <mailto:address@hidden
>     <mailto:address@hidden>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >         Another suggestion from #gnuradio was 'grapple'.
>     >
>     >         M
>     >
>     >         On 22 Dec 2015 15:12, "Neel Pandeya"
>     <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>
>     >         <mailto:address@hidden
>     <mailto:address@hidden>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >             My vote would be for one of these:
>     >
>     >             GRPM = GnuRadio Package Manager
>     >
>     >             GRAB = Gnu RAdio Basic installer
>     >
>     >             GRBI =
>     >             ​​
>     >             Gnu Radio Basic Installer
>     >
>     >             I agree with Tim O'Shea, the name should be something
>     short
>     >             and functional, and give an idea of what it does,
>     instead of
>     >             being cutesy and contrived.
>     >
>     >             --Neel
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >             On 22 December 2015 at 12:10, Martin Braun
>     >             <address@hidden
>     <mailto:address@hidden> <mailto:address@hidden
>     <mailto:address@hidden>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >                 There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and
>     now that
>     >                 we're
>     >                 re-releasing it, this is a good time to think
>     about it.
>     >                 Complaints about
>     >                 the name include:
>     >
>     >                 - It may or may not be true that people have been
>     >                 detained by TSA for
>     >                 working on PyBOMBS at the airport[1]
>     >                 - The name suggests a Python-related packages (like
>     >                 Pylint, PyPI...)
>     >                 rather than a GNU Radio-related tool
>     >                 - People can't agree on a capitalization
>     >                 - No one can remember what the acronym stands for
>     >
>     >                 Sure, this is not a critical thing, but now's a good
>     >                 chance to bring it
>     >                 up and also, this is not a joke :)
>     >
>     >                 Here's how we're going to do this:
>     >
>     >                 - Please suggest new names in this thread.
>     >                 - I will choose from those names based on 'can I live
>     >                 with this name',
>     >                 100% subjectively.
>     >                 - New names will be put up for a vote. This will
>     include
>     >                 an option to
>     >                 keep the old name.
>     >                 - Finally, the result of the vote will be used as a
>     >                 strong suggestion on
>     >                 what the new name will be.
>     >
>     >                 There already have been some suggestions:
>     >
>     >                 - gromit -- the GNU Radio out-of-tree module
>     >                 installation tool
>     >                 - the groot
>     >                 - grpm -- the GNU Radio package manager
>     >
>     >
>     >                 OK guys, bring up the ideas!
>     >
>     >                 Cheers,
>     >                 Martin
>     >
>     >                 [1] It's not.
>     >
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