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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gr-dsp Library Block Parameters


From: Almohanad Fayez
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gr-dsp Library Block Parameters
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:14:33 -0400 (EDT)

Hey Chris, if you reached this far I'm assuming that the new packages have solved your issues ... Since you're passing normalized values to the DSP you will need to scale them or they will be converted to zeros when moved to the DSP

float             fixed
0.3333    =     0
3.3333    =     3
33.333    =     33

so your scaling factor should be 15.  Regarding input/output signature it allows you to define if the input is normalized (signature = 0) meaning that the easycom-gpp library would need to scale it before transferring it to the dsp and the same for the output you'll tell it if it should scale it back to normalized numbers or should it keep it as fixed point numbers.  The motivation for this is the USRP1 with non-uhd drivers would provide fixed point data during receive mode and normalized data for transmit mode.



al



src_coeff, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0) 
 




-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Dean <address@hidden>
To: Almohanad Fayez <address@hidden>
Cc: discuss-gnuradio <address@hidden>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 3:37 pm
Subject: gr-dsp Library Block Parameters

Hi Al, 
 
We're trying to use your gr-dsp library and are having difficulty verifying the output of your DSP.fir_ccf blocks. To allow for easy comparison to the standard filter type, gr.fir_filter_ccf, we generated a very simple block diagram in GRC. This consisted of a vector source, an fir_filter_ccf block, and a file sink. All of the original data and filter taps are the same, but the outputs are not lining up with their expected values. 
 
I have included the full script file at the bottom of this email. The relevant calls to the filter constructors are shown in the text. 
 
For instance: 
 
We have: 
 
src = "">   0.02+0.22j, 
  0.03+0.33j, 
  0.04+0.44j, 
  0.05+0.55j, 
  0.06+0.66j, 
  0.07+0.77j, 
  0.08+0.88j, 
  0.09+0.99j) 
 
src_coeff = (0.101, 0.102, 0.103, 0.104, 0.105) 
 
Without scaling (scaling_factor = 0, so scaling by 2^0 = 1): 
 
  gr.fir_filter_ccf(1, src_coeff) 
 
  This produces output: 
  0.0010 + 0.0111i 
  0.0030 + 0.0334i 
  0.0061 + 0.0671i 
  0.0102 + 0.1122i 
  0.0154 + 0.1689i 
  0.0205 + 0.2255i 
  0.0257 + 0.2822i 
  0.0308 + 0.3388i 
  0.0360 + 0.3954i 
 
  What we thought would be the equivalent call using the fir_ccf block is: 
 
  self.gr_fir_filter_xxx_0 = dsp.fir_ccf (src_coeff, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0) 
 
  This produces output: 
 
  0 
  0 
  0 
  0 
  0 
  0 
  0 
  0 
  0 
 
With scaling (scaling_factor = 15, so scaling by 2^15): 
 
  gr.fir_filter_ccf(1, src_coeff) 
  The data was manually scaled by 2^15 in MATLAB, producing output: 
 
  1.0e+04 * 
 
  0.0033 + 0.0364i 
  0.0100 + 0.1096i 
  0.0200 + 0.2199i 
  0.0334 + 0.3677i 
  0.0503 + 0.5533i 
  0.0672 + 0.7389i 
  0.0840 + 0.9245i 
  0.1009 + 1.1102i 
  0.1178 + 1.2958i 
 
  dsp.fir_ccf (src_coeff, 15, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0) 
 
  * output-signature = 1, so we want the output to be have the same scale factor that it is on the DSP. 
 
  This produces output: 
 
  1.0e+03 * 
 
  0.3350 + 0.3350i 
  0.3400 + 0.3390i 
  0.3430 + 0.3440i 
  0.3470 + 0.3470i 
  0.3500 - 0.0340i 
  -0.3650 - 0.1000i 
  -1.0960 - 0.2000i 
  -2.1990 - 0.3350i 
  -3.6770 - 0.5030i 
 
In neither of these cases do the dsp implementation and the gpp implementation give the same output. 
 
I'm pretty sure that the issue is in my interpretation of your parameters. I've already been using the online documentation to figure out what the parameters do, so I know the basic jist of it, but obviously I haven't got it figured out yet. Could you please explain the use of the scaling_factor, input_signature, and output_signature parameters in more detail? 
 
Also, for the input_signature parameter to be 0, like it is in the examples qa_fir_ccf2.py and qa_fir_ccf3.py, doesn't the input need to be normalized? By my understanding, normalized vectors are unit vectors, so they should have length 1. But src (above) has length 9, so it's not normalized and the input_signature parameter should be 1. Is that correct? 
 
Thanks, 
 
Chris 
 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
#!/usr/bin/env python 
################################################## 
# Gnuradio Python Flow Graph 
# Title: Top Block 
# Generated: Wed Jul 13 11:09:34 2011 
################################################## 
 
from gnuradio import eng_notation 
from gnuradio import gr 
from gnuradio.eng_option import eng_option 
from gnuradio.gr import firdes 
from optparse import OptionParser 
from gnuradio import dsp 
 
class top_block(gr.top_block): 
 
  def __init__(self): 
  gr.top_block.__init__(self, "Top Block") 
 
  ################################################## 
  # Variables 
  ################################################## 
  self.samp_rate = samp_rate = 32000 
 
  ################################################## 
  # Blocks 
  ################################################## 
  self.gr_vector_source_x_0 = gr.vector_source_c((0.01+0.11j,0.02+0.22j,0.03+0.33j,0.04+0.44j,0.05+0.55j, 0.06+0.66j, .07+0.77j, 0.08+0.88j, 0.09+0.99j), False, 1) 
  #self.gr_fir_filter_xxx_0 = gr.fir_filter_ccf(1, (0.101, 0.102, 0.103, 0.104, 0.105)) 
  # Uncomment the previous line, comment in the next three lines to switch from dsp-based to gpp-based filter. 
  src_coeff = (0.101, 0.102, 0.103, 0.104, 0.105) 
  dsp.init() 
  self.gr_fir_filter_xxx_0 = dsp.fir_ccf (src_coeff, 15, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0) 
 
  self.gr_file_sink_0 = gr.file_sink(gr.sizeof_gr_complex*1, "filtertest-dsp2.dat") 
  self.gr_file_sink_0.set_unbuffered(False) 
 
  ################################################## 
  # Connections 
  ################################################## 
  self.connect((self.gr_vector_source_x_0, 0), (self.gr_fir_filter_xxx_0, 0)) 
  self.connect((self.gr_fir_filter_xxx_0, 0), (self.gr_file_sink_0, 0)) 
 
  def get_samp_rate(self): 
  return self.samp_rate 
 
  def set_samp_rate(self, samp_rate): 
  self.samp_rate = samp_rate 
 
if __name__ == '__main__': 
  parser = OptionParser(option_class=eng_option, usage="%prog: [options]") 
  (options, args) = parser.parse_args() 
  if gr.enable_realtime_scheduling() != gr.RT_OK: 
  print "Error: failed to enable realtime scheduling." 
  tb = top_block() 
  tb.start() 
  raw_input('Press Enter to quit: ') 
  tb.stop() 
 

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