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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] two questions about the general communication sys


From: George Nychis
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] two questions about the general communication system
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:50:41 -0400
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So... if the noise channel is on your laptop, you must have generated this channel? Is it a simulated channel? Are you specifying the noise power?

You're not giving us much information.

- George


Bill Stevenson wrote:
Thank you! What i am trying to do is very simple: I don't use USRP, i just used a vector as a bit source and have it modulated and transmitted through a noise channel (on my laptop ^.^ ). Now i can set the value of noise's amplitude, but there seems to be no way to determine the bit energy! How to get it? Thank you!!!

Bill

----- Original Message ----
From: Daniel Halperin <address@hidden>
To: Brian Padalino <address@hidden>
Cc: Bill Stevenson <address@hidden>; address@hidden
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:18:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] two questions about the general communication system

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On Apr 13, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Brian Padalino wrote:
 > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Bill Stevenson
 > <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
 >>
 >> Thank you George!
 >>
>> I am just wondering when we calculate BER, how can we determine the >> value of
 >> bit energy? Thank u!
 >

If you look through the relevant emails on the list, it seems no one really understands the translation between the short values from the USRP and absolute energy --- ADC and processing behavior complicate the issue. However, it is much easier to estimate the ratio of Signal to Noise --- this is a relative quantity. Just figure out receiver power in the absence of a signal and in the presence of one...

- -Dan
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