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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??
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Eric Blossom |
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ?? |
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Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:35:42 -0800 |
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:04:31PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote:
> I'm looking for clues on the transfer function for gr.pll_refout_cc()
> as to how to find optimum values for alpha & beta.
>
> Using experimental methods: http://webpages.charter.net/cswiger/pll/
> ( script requires special versions of gr_pll_refout_cc.h,i )
>
> Interesting how, as the input signal is reduced in amplitude and
> disappears DOWN into the grass, the output signal remains constant
> and the grass comes UP to swamp it! Neat.
>
> Interesting tutorials: http://www.complextoreal.com/
>
> --Chuck
Chuck, I could have this totally wrong (the code definitely needs some
comments), but it's a second order control loop. We're adjusting both the
estimates of the phase and the derivative of the phase (commonly
called frequency ;))
I believe that setting
alpha = some value
beta = 0.25 * alpha * alpha
will result in a critically damped control loop.
Try some experiments that maintain this relationship.
Eric
- [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Charles Swiger, 2006/03/16
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??,
Eric Blossom <=
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Charles Swiger, 2006/03/16
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Eric Blossom, 2006/03/16
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Charles Swiger, 2006/03/16
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Eric Blossom, 2006/03/16
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Robert McGwier, 2006/03/16
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Charles Swiger, 2006/03/17
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Eric Blossom, 2006/03/17
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Charles Swiger, 2006/03/17
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, Charles Swiger, 2006/03/17
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] pll_refout_cc - finding optimum alpha & beta ??, ldoolitt, 2006/03/17