[cp-patches] Re: Help needed to persuade apaches about the Classpath license.

[Meskauskas Audrius]

So the idea evolves into plan to force Apache Geronimo to run on 
Classpath  (or just using our CORBA, as the first step in this way) and 
announce results of the work, probably placing the working solution as 
an independent project. In this way we may better persuade the Apache 
groups to use our work, finally increasing our chances to get seriously 
into the Harmony project.

Geronimo J2EE server project does call Sun's CORBA implementation 
directly. The reasons are unclear, but the most probably such calls are 
used for  bug workarounds. The main reason why they are finally unhappy 
with Sun is that these direct calls break they build in Sun's 1.5 release.

This means that plugging - in Classpath CORBA may not be so easy. But 
this also means that they cannot easily plug-in Trifork CORBA either. I 
do not know if Trifork is willing to contribute by work or just plan to 
drop them that large piece of code. If I adapt for them, this should be 
an advantage. 

What others think?

Audrius.

Dalibor Topic wrote:

> I meant something like checking geronimo out of CVS, adding the GNU 
> Classpath CORBA classes to it, and putting the resulting tarball 
> online somewhere for geronimo developers & general public to peek at.
>
> You don't have to be a member of the Geronimo project to do that, you 
> patch things up, and put the tarball on your site, and invite geronimo 
> developers to try it out.
>
> Yeah. I have no idea how geronimo uses CORBA and if that requires 
> messing with Sun's implementation. Maybe they try to work around Sun's 
> bugs. I have not yet looked at Geronimo code myself, so my suggestion 
> above might not work at all, for example.
>
> My thought was based on the observation that many Apache developers 
> see pragmatism as one of their defining characteristics. Persuading 
> such developers might be easier with a patched up tarball of geronimo 
> that includes GNU Classpath's CORBA implementation, than by debating 
> how licensing works.
>
> Otoh, it may turn out to be a lot of work: as I said, I have not 
> looked at what Geronimo does with CORBA, so take my proposal with the 
> obligatory salt mine. ;)
>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic