Re: Texinfo.tex, problem with too-long table inside @float

[arnold]

Removing the \vtop from texinfo.tex did the trick for me.
Not sure about makeinfo --latex though...

Thanks,

Arnold

arnold@skeeve.com wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Thanks for the response. I do have a number of floats (it's a good-
> sized book) but this may be the only table that is so large.
> It is important that I refer to the floats from the text with an xref.
>
> Since the \vbox is never actually moved around, maybe just don't
> put the enclosed stuff inside one?  That would suit me fine for both
> texinfo.tex and makeinfo --latex (which I will use to submit the
> book for production).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Arnold
>
> Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 10:45:14AM +0200, Aharon Robbins wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > 
> > > Using version 2023-10-19.19 of texinfo.tex, there is a problem if
> > > a table inside @float goes over one page.  See the attached file.
> > > 
> > > If the table is not inside @float, it formats just fine across
> > > multiple pages.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it's inherent in the meaning of the @float command that
> > the enclosed material will fit on a single page.  As long as it is output
> > inside a \vbox or \vtop, it can't be split across pages.
> >
> > If I convert your test file to LaTeX with 'texi2any --latex', and then
> > process the output with pdflatex, the output PDF has exactly the same
> > problem, with the table disappearing off the bottom of the page.
> >
> > You could use an @anchor to refer to the table, although without
> > the automatic numbering of the table, unfortunately.  @float has
> > the dual purpose of providing numbering and cross-referencing,
> > as well as controlling the formatting of the block.
> >
> > (It seems that the @float command at one time was intended to change
> > the position of the block on the page, but this was never implemented
> > in texinfo.tex.)
> >
> > The float caption would not be satisfactorily placed even if the
> > table did split across pages, as it is placed at the end of the
> > float, so would not be visible on the first page where the table
> > appears.
> >
> > How important is it to you that you can refer to tables with text
> > like "See Table 1"?  Do you have many numbered tables in the document?
> >
> > Could it be appropriate to place such long tables as these in a section
> > of their own which then could be cross-referenced as usual?
> >
> > > This example is culled from a book I'm working on. I need the @float
> > > in order to be able to use an @ref to the table from the inline prose.
> > > 
> > > Much thanks!
> > > 
> > > Arnold
> >