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Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for
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Per Bothner |
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Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?] |
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Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:24:07 -0700 |
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On 10/12/23 11:35, Gavin Smith wrote:
Calling [using Perl] a "mistake" is a very strong statement! Why do you say
that?
Surely texi2any 7.0.3 (2023) is more functional than makeinfo 4.13 (2008) was.
That is not a meaningful comparison. The question is: If we had re-written
makeinfo/texi2any using C++ rather than Perl there is all reason to
believe it would have been similarly functional at this point.
The most obvious reason Perl was the wrong choice was performance: As you
recently mentioned some people are still using the old pre-Perl tools
for that reason. And this is after years of tuning the Perl code.
Another problem with Perl is that was a relatively obscure language,
in that not many people had much experience writing big complicated
programs using Perl. And that has gotten worse in the intervening years.
A related issue is tooling: There is a lot of available and up-to-date
tooling for C++, including gdb.
I'm not much of a fan of C++ tbh.
I have a lot of C++ experience, and I am a big fan. For almost any program
where C might be a reasonable choice, C++ is likely to be a better choice.
C++ is admittedly a big complicated language - but if you focus on
C and add classes, methods, and inheritance it's not very complicated
and it's already a big win over C. Memmory management (RAII) is also easier
and less error-prone:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/cpp/object-lifetime-and-resource-management-modern-cpp?view=msvc-170
It is much easier to make a large C++ program well-structured and maintainable:
Classes help immeasurably, as do namespaces.
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--Per Bothner
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- Re: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?, (continued)
- Re: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?, Gavin Smith, 2023/10/14
- Re: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?, Werner LEMBERG, 2023/10/14
- Re: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?, Patrice Dumas, 2023/10/14
- Re: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/10/14
- Re: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?, Patrice Dumas, 2023/10/14
implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?], Per Bothner, 2023/10/12
Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?], Patrice Dumas, 2023/10/14
- Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?], Per Bothner, 2023/10/14
- Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?], Per Bothner, 2023/10/14
- Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?], Gavin Smith, 2023/10/15
- Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?], Per Bothner, 2023/10/15
- Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?], Gavin Smith, 2023/10/16
- Re: implementation language [was: library for unicode collation in C for texi2any?], Per Bothner, 2023/10/16