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Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window
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Benno Schulenberg |
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Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window |
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Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:49:27 +0100 |
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Karl Berry wrote:
> An alternative might be to bind "{" and "}" to
> search-previous and search-next.
>
> I don't mind that on the basis of the keys, but I question
> whether these functions really need such bindings. It seems to
> me the natural way to "search again" (forward) is to hit s RET.
> That's what I've always done myself -- I never even knew
> search-previous/next existed.
But 'search next/previous' exist in just about every program that
offers searching, for example N/Shift-N in vim and less, and
F3/Shift-F3 in Firefox and many KDE programs. Many people will
expect them to exist in 'info'.
> As for search-backward, we've already discussed the general
> weirdnesses of going backwards.
In vim and less I regularly search backwards, going to the end of
the file and typing ?string<Enter>. I agree that in a manual this
is probably a strange thing to do, but in log files it is normal.
> See if it passes muster now, please ...
It's better. But the proposed line explaining Ctrl-G is missing,
the blank line before "1...9" is missing, and the following is in my
opinion not a good change:
- N_("\\%-10[history-node] Go back to the last node seen in this window.\n"),
+ N_("\\%-10[history-node] Return to the previous node seen in this
window.\n"),
It is better to say "last node", to get the mnemonic for the "l"
key, and it's probably better to say "go back", to indicate that it
works like the back-button in a browser. And somehow "back back
back" sounds linear, whereas "return return return" sounds like
going back and forth.
In my opinion there is no need the mention the "n" and "p" keys, but
if you want to keep them, the following may be better descriptions:
n Go to the next node on this level.
p Go to the previous node on this level.
The block of five lines in info/infomap.c that starts with
"/* We want help to report q, not C-x C-c, etc. */"
should be moved to the end of the function, and these two lines must
be moved there too to get "Up" and "Down" to display correctly in
the help text:
SK_ESCAPE, SK_UP_ARROW, NUL, A_info_prev_line,
SK_ESCAPE, SK_DOWN_ARROW, NUL, A_info_next_line,
Benno
- simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Benno Schulenberg, 2008/02/24
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Karl Berry, 2008/02/24
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Benno Schulenberg, 2008/02/25
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Karl Berry, 2008/02/27
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Benno Schulenberg, 2008/02/27
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Karl Berry, 2008/02/28
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window,
Benno Schulenberg <=
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Karl Berry, 2008/02/28
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Benno Schulenberg, 2008/02/29
- Re: simpler help texts, default key for delete-window, Karl Berry, 2008/02/29