Re: #409 has a workaround

[Jonathan Wilkes]

--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Trevor Daniels <address@hidden> wrote:

> From: Trevor Daniels <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: #409 has a workaround
> To: "Mark Polesky" <address@hidden>, "bug-lilypond" <address@hidden>
> Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:37 AM
> 
> Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:26 AM
> > 
> > #409 has had a workaround for a while now - LSR #613
> > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=613
> > 
> > Also, is there any interest in implementing that
> snippet in
> > the source or is the sort of thing best to remain a
> snippet?
> 
> It would be a useful enhancement in the
> source, IMHO, although it is rare to see
> parts of slurs blanked out in traditionally engraved
> scores. 
> Trevor

I don't think I've ever seen a slur partly blanked out in a score. 
But the example in #409 is a tie.

I'm looking at Roger Sessions' 2nd string quartet (Edward B. Marks 
Music Corp.) and Takemitsu's "Green" for orchestra (Peters), and 
both just draw the tie through the time signature.  I also have a 
score of Paul Chihara's Piano Trio, in which the tie just stops 
before the barline if there would otherwise be a collision.  The 
latter looks a bit confusing in my opinion.

But all of those scores were pre-Finale/Sibelius, both of which (I think) 
default to blanking out the middle of a tie to avoid collisions with the 
time signature.  I think this is the best solution.  If you move the 
tie away from the notehead it starts to look like a slur. In the 
Sessions SQ, for example, the engraver even puts a cautionary accidental 
on a tied c# to show that it isn't a slur, and it clutters the music.  On 
the other hand, if you have rhythmically active piano music, a large tied 
chord can really obscure the new time signature.

I've seen pieces since the 90s (Peters Edition and others) that use the 
partly blanked out tie, but only to avoid a time signatures.

-Jonathan