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Re: GSoC application deadline passed


From: Arne Babenhauserheide
Subject: Re: GSoC application deadline passed
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:37:56 +0100
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El Friday, 14 de March de 2008 16:23:34 Michael Banck escribió:
> A developer blog (i.e. something which is shared by all the active
> developers, and only has entries regarding current developments) might
> be interesting (just commit messages aren't so much, because in a GNU
> tradition, they usually only describe the changes themselves, and not
> why they were done, what they fix or what else this can lead to).

Since it seems to be possible to use the wiki as a blog, it might be the right 
point for that, when it's speed issues can be solved. 

Else, a GNU Hurd news aggregator might be useful. 

There are many Hurd groups, so maybe an RSS feed which aggregates all rss 
feeds from the different groups could provide visibility. 

This works roughly like a shared blog, but the resource creation is 
decentralized. 

The only rss address I could find for the different communities is the one 
from Livejournal: http://community.livejournal.com/gnu_hurd/data/rss

But these communities are far less active than this mailing list, so I think 
they can mostly be disregarded. 

So I just modified the "community" site of the wiki a bit, to make it better 
reflect, that the bug-hurd mainling list and IRC are likely to be the most 
interesting resources for developers who visit the site: 

- http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/community/

Are there active blogs talking about the Hurd? 


> > Does that already run?
>
> No, at least not in any way interesting to users, I think.

To me that would mean, I can't get get it started in a way to see a console. 

Is it in that state, or is it more like "can't be used for anything but to see 
that a hurd can display a console"? 

> > If you find a list, that list should go into the wiki, along with a
> > roadmap on which things can be marked "done".
>
> The bug and task trackers are at http://sv.gnu.org/p/hurd

I just looked at the site, and it looks quite outdated, even though there are 
some current bugs in there. I think that the main gripe is the news (the most 
recent one is from 2003), so that page might not be the best for showing 
people that the Hurd is in active development. 


> > That means, the Hurd needs something like the Shedules in KDE:
> > -> http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules
> >
> > Each new release just needs a todo list with bugs and features.
>
> It's not as easy as that.  Bugs either get fixed relatively fast, or are
> so complex (e.g. require large parts of glibc be rewritten) or at the
> design level (see the discussion about threading) that you cannot just
> say "We'll fix the missing SA_SIGINFO by Monday".

Would a "we're currently working on" list be easier? 

With finished things marked finished and moved to the next release 
as "changes"? 

Is there a place where I could gather these features (those in the work since 
K16) to put them into the wiki? 

Would it be OK to create a wiki page in the bddebian wiki for that? 


> That said, we are doing much better with tracking bugs, but we could do
> even better I guess.  This is maybe something people do not necessarily
> need a deep understanding of the codebase to help.

Is the list of bugs and tasks complete? 

Could I use it as a base for a "we're currently working on" or a "things to 
do" list which gets updated everytime a new K* gets released? 


Best wishes, 
Arne
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