bug#4523: marked as done (23.1.50; Cannot set Motif Hints (Reopen of bug#4363))

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> 23.1.50; Cannot set Motif Hints (Reopen of bug#4363)
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> Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:10:30 +0200
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> There is no way to set Motif Hints like the nodecoration hint which is
> needed to go fullscreen with the qvwm windowmanager.  I need this for
> older IGEL-X-Terminals were qvwm is preinstalled.
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> Unfortunatly Emacs still needs "manual" customization going into
> C-sources and guessing where those hints should be put.  That is not
> everybody's turf.  I try to avoid that myself delaying upgrades by
> years.  Last time I upgraded was 2002/2003.  Everytime the relevant
> files change a bit so it takes time to adjust.  I wonder how other
> people do that.
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> At least some "better defined" way as simply patching sources manually
> would be nice.  Maybe there is no need to put Motif hints by default.
> But it would be very helpful to avoid any customization that goes
> beyond .emacs.el editing.
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> Ulrich Neumerkel skrev:
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> > There is no way to set Motif Hints like the nodecoration hint which is
> > needed to go fullscreen with the qvwm windowmanager.  I need this for
> > older IGEL-X-Terminals were qvwm is preinstalled.
> >
> > Unfortunatly Emacs still needs "manual" customization going into
> > C-sources and guessing where those hints should be put.  That is not
> > everybody's turf.  I try to avoid that myself delaying upgrades by
> > years.  Last time I upgraded was 2002/2003.  Everytime the relevant
> > files change a bit so it takes time to adjust.  I wonder how other
> > people do that.
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> > At least some "better defined" way as simply patching sources manually
> > would be nice.  Maybe there is no need to put Motif hints by default.
> > But it would be very helpful to avoid any customization that goes
> > beyond .emacs.el editing.
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> Motif wm hits is just a property with 5 values. Just use 
> x-change-window-property.
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> (defun make-special-frame (data)
>   (let ((ff (make-frame '((visibility . nil)))))
>     (progn
>       (x-change-window-property "_MOTIF_WM_HINTS" data ff
>                                 "_MOTIF_WM_HINTS" 32 t)
>        (make-frame-visible ff))))
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> To make a frame without decoration:
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> (make-special-frame '(2 0 0 0 0))
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> The first value tells what to change (from /usr/include/Xm/MwmUtils.h):
> #define MWM_HINTS_FUNCTIONS     (1L << 0)
> #define MWM_HINTS_DECORATIONS   (1L << 1)
> #define MWM_HINTS_INPUT_MODE    (1L << 2)
> #define MWM_HINTS_STATUS        (1L << 3)
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> The third is the decorations:
> #define MWM_DECOR_ALL           (1L << 0)
> #define MWM_DECOR_BORDER        (1L << 1)
> #define MWM_DECOR_RESIZEH       (1L << 2)
> #define MWM_DECOR_TITLE         (1L << 3)
> #define MWM_DECOR_MENU          (1L << 4)
> #define MWM_DECOR_MINIMIZE      (1L << 5)
> #define MWM_DECOR_MAXIMIZE      (1L << 6)
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> Note that most wm:s just check MWM_HINTS when the window is mapped, thats why 
> the function creates it invisible at first.
> If a frame is visible, you must (make-frame-invisble), 
> (x-change-window-properties...) (make-frame-visible).
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> We are not putting in code for old deprecated stuff.  There are new and better 
> ways than MOTIF WM HINTS nowdays.
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>         Jan D.
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