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bug#1993: 23.0.60; Emacs.app has only transparent window background
From: |
Adrian Robert |
Subject: |
bug#1993: 23.0.60; Emacs.app has only transparent window background |
Date: |
Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:11:00 +0545 |
On Mar 29, 2009, at 5:11 AM, David Reitter wrote:
Adrian, should we change this to match the Carbon Emacs default?
Your ns-compatibility-mode (forgot exact name) could change that,
of course, but without it, we don't have too many Mac like keys
bound. Traditional Emacs users tend to want a Meta key, while most
users of non-English keyboard layouts will need Option very
regularly to do tasks often done in Emacs {like C/Java/...
programming}.
Hi,
I will just give my thoughts on this, but since this port is a
community project it is not necessarily my decision what to do.
The reason to prefer command = command is that emacs can then use
similar accelerator keybindings to other os x apps. The reason to
prefer command = meta is that emacs can use similar non-ascii latin
character entry to other os x apps. Which is preferred for a given
user depends on two questions:
1) is the user in continental Europe?
2) is the user editing code or text?
Why (2)? Now that I've been living on the continent myself for a
while, I've noticed that programmers here often just use a US
keyboard layout even if they have a physically non-US keyboard. It's
just too much of a hassle to get commonly-needed special characters
otherwise.
So my feeling is that the command=meta option is preferred by text-
writing Continentals, while command = command is likely preferred by
everyone else. I am not sure which group makes up a larger subset of
OS X emacs users.
I do know that I received a few complaints over the years from folks
disliking the Emacs.app command=command default. My answer was
always to rehash the above and note that it's easy to change it --
just flip a combo box in the prefs panel. Now that it's not so easy
(I guess figuring out the existence of ns/mac-command-modifier
variable and writing suitable elisp to .emacs is necessary), the
default setting becomes more important.
Could be done, but I think we should stick to one default for all
layouts.
Then the system's one. No artificial changes.
I agree with both of these. So perhaps the best default would be
command=command (super), alt=none, and the user can set a meta key
(additional to esc+) if he/she desires.
-Adrian
- bug#1993: 23.0.60; Emacs.app has only transparent window background,
Adrian Robert <=