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From: | mwoehlke |
Subject: | Re: Building coreutils in Linux From Scratch |
Date: | Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:08:21 -0500 |
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Paul Eggert wrote:
mwoehlke writes:I'd like to jump in and make a comment here... I have coreutils (5.97) built on nine different platforms, but haven't even attempted to tackle procps as it is not auto*-based (and so far I have not been motivated to track down how to set up the build correctly, much less chase down bugs and build errors). Unless procps is fixed/improved, dropping these from coreutils means - from my POV - that they will be gone entirely.I know of no plans do drop them.
That was the impression I got from Matthew Burgess' post; apparently that is non-authoritative?
'uptime' is a bit of a curiosity. On my platform (Debian stable) coreutils 'uptime' does its work with fewer system calls than procps 'uptime', so I don't know why anyone would prefer procps uptime. (Maybe someone else can chime in.) For 'kill', most people use Bash's 'kill', not coreutils's or procps's, so they probably don't care about 'kill' one way or another. At some point I was planning to merge coreutils 'kill' back into Bash but it's low priority.
A good point, however a number of people around here use csh instead of bash, so I think it is still valuable (to me, anyway).
'su' is the only one we're thinking of dropping from coreutils. Do you use coreutils 'su'? 'su' is so intertangled with security gorp that these days it's pretty hard to port separately from the rest of the gorp.
Doesn't look like it; it seems 'su' didn't get built on *any* of the systems I built coreutils on (even Linux? ...but I might have done that intentionally and just forgot). At any rate, I know 'su' is problematic and don't object to dropping that one. Certainly not if you're only dropping it from non-Linux builds (since it sounds like some other people would mind it going away entirely).
-- Matthew'$ time make world' -> real 5d:14h:37m:5.291s user 0m:0.000s sys 4d:2h:14m:43.712s
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