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Re: [Bino-list] Bino-list Digest, Vol 19, Issue 14


From: Pedro Silva Pinto
Subject: Re: [Bino-list] Bino-list Digest, Vol 19, Issue 14
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:34:17 +0100

Hi,

 

The best format is side-by-side (half or full frame) video encapsulated in an MKV file. If you have an unprotected BluRay disc, you can use this free tool to make the conversion:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/BDtoAVCHD

Playing the videos:

If you’re on Win7 and using the 3D monitor and Nvidia glasses, you’re better off using the 3D Vision Video Player from Nvidia itself. You can download it from the Nvidia website.

If you want to use the RealD glasses (not Real 3D), you’ll need the following (I’ve done it successfully on Win7 and Ubuntu 11.10):

·         Two (preferably DLP) projectors. I’ve seen also some monitors that work with RealD glasses, by polarizing the odd lines for one eye and the even lines to the other, but these are not easy to find. Nvidia capable screens do not support polarized light stereo.

·         A graphics board which supports two monitors simultaneously. I believe the one you have is ok.

·         A pair of polarizing filters, one for each projector. RealD system uses circular polarized light (in Europe, at least), not linear, so the filters must be circular polarizers.

·         A projection screen that doesn’t depolarize light as it is reflected. Projecting to a wall or a regular white screen won’t do. Usually a silver screen, but not all preserve light polarization. The projectors should be stacked on top of each other and pointed to the screen, so both images perfectly align over one another.

·         In Win7, you need to setup your screens side by side in the Nvidia control panel (see attached picture). Be sure that Nvidia 3D Stereo and SLI are turned off. In Linux the same can be done. If you need, I can send you my xorg.conf file.

With this configuration, and with media created with BDtoAVCHD, you can use Bino in Windows or Linux, with SBS or Half-SBS.

 

Cheers!

 

Pedro

 

 

From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of address@hidden
Sent: quarta-feira, 18 de Abril de 2012 17:18
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Bino-list] Bino-list Digest, Vol 19, Issue 14

 

 

 OK, thank you

 

On my win box I'm using a nvidia 560ti card connected to a asus 3d monitor that has the ir transponder embedded in the display frame.

 

I hope the dev team provides 3d support for theis config at some future point.

 

Real 3d glasses are what movie theathers in the USA are using for their 3d content.

I believe they use polorized lens, one in the horizontal the other verticle.

 

My linux boxes use nvidia 9800 gt cards.  One uses a standard lcd panel with a 60 hz refresh rate, so I'm not sure if 3d is a possibility here. The other uses a higher end crt projector with variable hor and vert frequency rates, 3d may be a possibility on this device.

 

I'll have to research what tools are available to copy & convert a 3d blu ray into a mkv file.

 

I have a few 3d video clips that are mkv format, but haven't been able to figure out what the correct input and display format should be.  Is there any tools I could utilize to identify the file format?

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Hi!

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:06:19 -0700, address@hidden wrote:
> I'm trying to get 3d to work with downloaded 3d sample files and also
> with 3d encoded blu ray media.
> I'm using Linux and Win 7 on 3d capable displays, and I'm using
> Nvidia active glasses and Real 3d passive. The Nvidia uses a IR
> transponder to control their product, but Bino doesn't seem to see
> the product, at least the active leb never is lit. I've tried
> numerous variations of settings but no apparent change is visible.

Bino does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision on non-Quadro graphics cards at
the moment. With a Quadro graphics card, NVIDIA lets you use "OpenGL
stereo" with the 3D Vision glasses, but they restrict this feature on
their standard graphics cards.

It is possible to make Bino work with 3D Vision on standard cards at
least on Linux via libnvstusb, but this is not yet implemented.

Furthermore, Bino (or any other free software) cannot read BluRay discs
directly because of the restrictions placed on this format. If it is
legal in your jurisdiction to do so, you could first convert the BluRay
video to an unrestricted format, e.g. Matroska (.mkv).

As for "Real 3d" glasses: I don't know what these are; making this
work depends on how your projector / monitor / TV wants the
stereoscopic video to be delivered by Bino. Do you have any information
on that?

Martin



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